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Taking Credit... with Matt Goldhill

A Conversation with Matt Goldhill, Founder of Picnic

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Taking Credit... with Matt Goldhill

A Conversation with Matt Goldhill, Founder of Picnic

April 21, 2026

OAREX spent an afternoon with Matt Goldhill in Brooklyn.

Matt Byrne and Goldhill have known each other for nearly a decade, first meeting in London around 2016. Today, they catch up in New York.

Byrne reflects on their first conversation:

"Matt reached out before Picnic even existed, asking about working capital. He understood early that capital infrastructure should be in place before it’s needed, starting those discussions before he’d even left his job to start the venture. Founders need to anticipate growth challenges like Matt did."

Goldhill adds:

"Being able to call up your lender and discuss a challenge, or more often a growth opportunity, and get the support you're looking for is something most Founders don't have. Matt's been a capital partner to Picnic since 2019 and a friend to me for almost 10 years now."

OAREX:

Matt, where are we finding you today? What’s currently going on in your world at Picnic?

Matt Goldhill:

It’s near the end of Q1, and it’s been a good start to the year. The team is very focused and we’re building some of the coolest products we’ve ever built. Everyone’s really fired up about it.

We actually launched a new product today called Quality Video, which we shared publicly on LinkedIn. So it’s been a busy and exciting start to the year.

OAREX:

That sounds exciting. What can you tell us about the product?

Matt Goldhill:

We built a product called Quality Video, which focuses on improving the quality of video that buyers purchase across the open web.

About 30% of video players in standard buys collapse into a tiny player that sits in the corner of the screen. It’s basically a waste of money. Another 15% continue playing even after the user has scrolled past them and they’re no longer visible.

Our product filters those out. We’ve built extremely granular insights into what actually happens with online video and turned that into something that genuinely helps customers make better decisions.

OAREX:

That’s great context. Before we get deeper into Picnic and the product side of things, I’d love to rewind a bit. Where did you grow up?

Matt Goldhill:

I grew up in London. I lived there, studied there, and worked there—which is probably why I eventually moved to the U.S. It felt like the right time to change that part of my life.

OAREX:

And you studied at Oxford, correct? When you first started university, what did you think your career might look like?

Matt Goldhill:

Before university I thought I wanted to work in the music industry. I did a summer of internships across the industry—music tech, record labels, ad management, the whole gamut.

But I realized it wasn’t for me. What really interested me was startups and technology.

In my final year I was already working with social media data. I studied English literature and language, but I also did a linguistics project analyzing Twitter data using Gnip, which was essentially Twitter’s firehose of data at the time. That world fascinated me.

Straight out of university I joined a mobile advertising startup. What attracted me was that it was a startup—but also that I was a bit of a tech nerd. I liked apps, smartphones, and everything happening in that ecosystem.

OAREX:

So how did that early interest in startups eventually turn into Picnic?

Matt Goldhill:

My first company did really well and was eventually acquired by Omnicom Media Group. That experience gave me the startup bug. I saw how a company could grow, scale, and eventually be bought.

After that I worked at two programmatic companies, including AppNexus, which was foundational infrastructure for programmatic advertising. That’s where I really learned the mechanics of how the system worked.

I also noticed that a lot of companies were building products on top of that infrastructure. That’s what sparked the idea behind Picnic—whether we could build differentiated products on top of existing systems.

OAREX:

When you first entered the mobile and programmatic space, what felt exciting—and what felt broken?

Matt Goldhill:

The exciting part was the scale. You could build a product and immediately see it affecting millions of people.

Even early on we were shipping code that appeared on major sites like The Guardian or Mail Online. I’d be reading the news and see our product live on the page. That was incredibly exciting.

What felt broken was the lack of transparency and the amount of wasted money in the ecosystem. It’s also an incredibly complex system. Even the people trying to solve these problems don’t always fully understand how everything works.

"The exciting part was the scale. You could build a product and immediately see it affecting millions of people."

OAREX:

That leads naturally into the founding moment. What did you see in the market around 2017 that others might have missed?

Matt Goldhill:

I believed that innovation for smaller companies would come from building differentiation on top of existing infrastructure.

It took us time to get that right. There were a lot of failed attempts along the way. But the idea still holds true today.

The infrastructure layer in this industry was largely built around 2012, and the opportunity now is building differentiated layers on top of it. You can still build very impactful companies doing that.

"I believed that innovation for smaller companies would come from building differentiation on top of existing infrastructure."

OAREX:

At some point the idea becomes real and you decide to start the company. What was that leap like for you?

Matt Goldhill:

There was about a year and a half where I had this persistent itch. Even in jobs I liked, I kept feeling like I wanted to build something myself.

I remember the moment clearly. I met with my co-founder in April 2016, but we didn’t actually start the business for another ten months. There was a lot of groundwork to lay.

The truth is you can never prepare enough. Everything you think you’ll know—you won’t.

But I was also very young, which made the risk easier. I didn’t have major financial obligations. I was paying about £400 a month for a bedroom. So it didn’t feel like I was giving up much to try.

"There was about a year and a half where I had this persistent itch. Even in jobs I liked, I kept feeling like I wanted to build something myself."

OAREX:

Looking back now, if you were starting a company today, what would you do differently?

Matt Goldhill:

I’d go bigger, faster, and more ambitious immediately.

I have far more experience now—skills, network, knowledge. All of that would allow me to move much quicker and pursue bigger opportunities right away.

OAREX:

As Picnic grew, what were some of the key pivots that shaped the company?

Matt Goldhill:

Most pivots weren’t because the thesis was wrong—it was more about execution.

Our biggest mistake early on was focusing too narrowly on a niche. That limited the size of the opportunity.

The best pivot we made was deliberately broadening the market we were addressing.

There’s a startup theory about dominating a niche first, but for our type of business that approach actually constrained growth.

OAREX:

Your work centers on the idea of quality in digital media. How do you define quality in a market that often optimizes for volume?

Matt Goldhill:

We don’t try to define quality ourselves. Instead we provide the data so buyers can make quantitative decisions about it.

The problem in the ecosystem is that there hasn’t been enough reliable data to support those decisions.

Interestingly, we’ve found that quality and cost are often poorly correlated. Lower-quality inventory can sometimes be 20–30% more expensive than higher-quality inventory.

If you can’t measure quality properly, you can’t price it properly.

OAREX:

What do buyers misunderstand most about inventory today?

Matt Goldhill:

Many buyers think they can understand inventory simply by pulling a site list and looking at metrics like clicks or viewability.

Those metrics really aren’t fit for purpose anymore. The future of programmatic relies on trust, and trust requires deeper data.

You need something closer to a visual understanding of what a site actually is—not just a spreadsheet of performance metrics.

OAREX:

Running a company through all of that complexity obviously takes a personal toll. How has building Picnic affected you personally?

Matt Goldhill:

The biggest personal impact is stress and anxiety. When the business isn’t going well, you feel it very deeply.

But the flip side is incredibly rewarding. When you show a product to a customer after months of work and they say, “This is great—we want to buy it,” that feeling never gets old.

Even the hundredth time you hear it, it’s still amazing.

OAREX:

How has your leadership style evolved since starting the company?

Matt Goldhill:

When I started, I had never managed anyone before.

Over time we built a culture that prioritizes trust by default. If someone joins Picnic and goes through the hiring process, we trust them to manage their time and their work.

That creates a strong culture because you attract talented people who want to do great work. But it also means the company isn’t the right fit for people who need to be heavily managed.

OAREX:

Technology has changed dramatically since 2017, particularly with the rise of AI. How has that affected your business?

Matt Goldhill:

We’re not building frontier AI models ourselves, but we make sure we use the best tools available throughout the company.

For example, our engineers use AI tools to help solve coding challenges. We used to manually map ad tech providers on publisher websites. Using AI workflows we expanded that from around 40 providers to more than 1,300.

Personally, I use AI constantly—transcribing meetings, generating follow-ups, and automating internal workflows.

Even as a 25-person company, we dedicate part of someone’s role entirely to AI automation and process improvement.

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Capital & Investors

OAREX:

Earlier you mentioned one of the most stressful periods was when you had to raise capital while things weren’t going to plan. How do you think about the balance between capital and control as a founder?

Matt Goldhill:

Whenever you raise money, you’re giving away some degree of control.

Early on we raised at more of an angel level, where that trade-off was minimal. But once you get to institutional rounds—seed and beyond—you’re definitely sharing control in some form. Even if it’s things like reporting rights or budget oversight.

The key is making sure investors provide sensible oversight without getting too involved in areas where they don’t actually specialize.

"Whenever you raise money, you’re giving away some degree of control."

OAREX:

Beyond valuation, how do you diligence potential investors?

Matt Goldhill:

The best way is speaking with other founders they’ve invested in.

Next time I raise money I’d probably be even more deliberate about that. It’s easy to speak to an investor’s favorite portfolio companies—the ones that worked out. But it’s just as important to speak to founders where things didn’t go well.

That gives you a much more honest picture of how that investor behaves when things are difficult.

OAREX:

How much of evaluating investors ultimately comes down to instinct?

Matt Goldhill:

Probably more than people would like to admit.

You try to gather as much information as possible, but investment is ultimately a people business as much as it is a numbers business.

At some point you have to trust your judgment about the people you’ll be working with.

OAREX:

What defines a capital partner that’s truly aligned with Picnic?

Matt Goldhill:

Ideally it’s someone who grows alongside the company.

You want someone flexible as the business evolves, someone you can have honest conversations with about both the ups and the downs, and ultimately someone willing to support the company with capital when it’s needed.

"Ideally it’s someone who grows alongside the company.

You want someone flexible as the business evolves, someone you can have honest conversations with about both the ups and the downs, and ultimately someone willing to support the company with capital when it’s needed."

OAREX:

How has access to non-dilutive capital changed how you think about scaling the company?

Matt Goldhill:

It’s allowed us to scale without relying entirely on large equity raises.

For most of Picnic’s life we’ve deliberately tried to operate more like a bootstrap business. That might mean slower top-line growth, but it also means greater control over the direction of the company.

Non-dilutive capital helps us stay on that path.

"[Non-dilutive capital has]
allowed us to scale without relying entirely on large equity raises."
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Looking Ahead

OAREX:

Looking ahead, could Picnic eventually become part of a larger organization?

Matt Goldhill:

Possibly. We’re building a very technical and defensible product, so there are definitely strategic buyers in the industry that could find that interesting.

But we’re also building a business with multiple revenue streams and a lot of ambition behind it. Private equity could also help push the company to its next stage of growth.

OAREX:

To wrap things up, what ultimately motivates you to keep building as an entrepreneur?

Matt Goldhill:

Part of it is competitive—you want to win.

But over time it becomes more about the team. Building a workplace where people feel fulfilled and proud of what they’re doing becomes incredibly motivating.

OAREX:

And outside of the company, how do you step away from the pressures of being a founder?

Matt Goldhill:

Exercise, cooking, traveling. But more importantly it’s about mindset—recognizing that overworking doesn’t necessarily produce better results.

Sometimes the best thing you can do is step away.

OAREX:

If we fast-forward three years, what would you like people to say about Picnic’s place in the market?

Matt Goldhill:

I’d like Picnic to be known for having the most accurate and granular insights into quality across multiple channels—display, video, CTV, and potentially others.

Not as an arbiter of what’s good or bad, but as a data provider that empowers the industry to make better decisions.

And I’d also hope people recognize the culture we’ve built, because ultimately the culture is what delivers the product.

About Picnic

Founded in 2017, Picnic are the leaders in inventory intelligence, helping advertisers to assess, understand and curate high-quality inventory across the web with the PIQ Data Platform.

The business currently has a team of 25 in London and New York. Its equity investors include Guinness Ventures and FirstPartyCapital. The company has a $3,000,000 OAREX facility.